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Hey guys! So we're closing in on this group being here 3 months now. I'm sorry I've not been very active lately. I've gotten pretty busy and this past week I had a tooth pulled and it took more out of me than expected. I'm still planning a contest here in the future although I'm not certain when. I'm also working on a contest in the #KeepThemHonest group as well.

How has the group been working for you guys? Have you received any critiques? Have you given any? :bucktooth: If you got critiques were they helpful? What are your suggestions for improving the group?

I just commented on about a half-dozen or so pieces yesterday or so -- in part making up for slacking before. I also moved a few deviations that had been accidentally placed in the wrong folder when they were submitted.

I had originally planned to write 2 critiques every month because I figured that was a small enough number I could keep track of it... I'm going to try and shake things up a bit for myself and do at least one a week, likely on Sundays. They may not be big, but with any luck they'll be helpful.

Remember this group is for you guys and you'll make it a success. Get out there and give someone a critique if you haven't already. It doesn't matter if you don't feel like your own art is very good or if you feel like you're not good at giving critiques. Don't get yourself all wound-up about it, just look through the gallery, find something you think could be better, and offer your thoughts as a friendly suggestion.

Remember when you offer a suggestion for improvement to offer a complement to go with it -- folks are more receptive to suggestions when they're coupled with a nice complement. :nod:

Also phrasing helps. If you're worried about offending people a) don't and b) here's a tip for your phrasing. Talk about "something that could be improved", rather than "a bad thing". In other words, people are more receptive to hearing that "I think adding an extra panel here might improve the flow" as opposed to hearing "this flow is bad". The latter sounds kind of "final" and "condemning", so it can put people off, particularly if you're not suggesting a way to resolve what you think is a problem. But if you phrase it instead as "here's something I think might help", that's much more inviting and friendly and people will be more receptive to it.

:new: Oh! And remember to tell them you found them in Critoons, so they know the group is working!

Now get out there and offer some advice! :nod:

Happy critiquing, everyone!
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:iconcaradecunha:
~caradecunha Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
(Suggestion!)
I suggest that it be a pre-requisite ( or just something to be mentioned in a journal) that the own artist of the comic give some idea of what they would like the critiques to focus at. So if they want more critique in say "Art" they put that in the description with the group's 'Logo" or "name". Or if he wants to focus on the flow of the story, the characters, the plot whatever they say so. That's how :iconthewrittenrevolution: has done it and I think it helps both the artist and the one who will critique...
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:iconwoohooligan:
*woohooligan May 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for the suggestion! :nod:

Sorry for the late reply. :bucktooth: I keep forgetting that I don't get replies to group blogs in my message center.
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:iconcaradecunha:
~caradecunha Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
P.S.: To exemplify what I mean...: [link] <- at the bottom, in the writer's descrption of what he wrote.
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:iconasiasisia:
Another principle that I at least myself try to follow is giving at least one critique per each piece I submit.
And by the way, this group seems more active than the few critique groups I've been part of before, I've already gotten a few crits and given several myself too, so props for that. The fact that the group is smaller and younger plays its part too though, everyone feels more obliged to do their share. Hopefully everyone keeps contributing in the future as well.

Late comment is late, but anyway.
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:iconwoohooligan:
*woohooligan May 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Sorry for the late reply. :bucktooth: I keep forgetting that replies to group blogs won't show up in my message center. Wish they would.

Anyway, glad the group is working well for you, Kat! :nod: I think you're the first person who's actually given me feedback on how the group is working. :bucktooth:
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:iconpoluptukha:
I totally agree that if everyone critique more that it would be awesome, like you said once a week!
Also i try and find ones that dont have many comments on them already...I was wondering cause we arent using like official critique comment boxes, what if we used a heading so people know why we are giving them a critique - and its not random...so like they know its someone from the group? I dont know but i think it also breaks the ice so people are ok with some helpful negative comments lol.

for example at the top of the comment box have like : {Critoons Critiquer} or something? just an idea:)
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:iconwoohooligan:
*woohooligan Mar 20, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Oh yeah, thank you for reminding me! :hug: I updated the blog. I haven't been putting anything specific in my comments, but whether I use the official critique system or not, I make a point of letting them know that I'm coming from the Critoons group. And I'm hoping everyone else will do the same.

I try to use the text link #Critoons or the graphic link :iconcritoons:. It's not strictly necessary, but if someone else is reading the comments or the critique, then it's easier for them to find the group and maybe join as well. :nod:
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:iconpoluptukha:
oh how do i do that ?
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:iconwoohooligan:
*woohooligan Mar 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
In any journal, comment, etc. on DA, you can use :dev[username]: to put in a text link or :icon[username]: to put in a graphic link. Just replace [username] with the name of the deviant or the group. So for critoons it would be : devcritoons : or : iconcritoons : (without the extra spaces that I put in so it wouldn't convert the code).

Thanks, P!
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:iconpoluptukha:
OH! thank you:)
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